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1  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: UK Politics thread on: April 18, 2017, 03:13:29 PM
she is my mp.

every issue i raised with her gets dealt with.

shes good... and i don't vote for her.
2  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: UK Politics thread on: April 18, 2017, 10:20:45 AM
she has to do it now... situation is forcing her hand
3  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: UK Politics thread on: April 18, 2017, 10:15:12 AM
labour are a mess, makes sense politically. also there is a genuine issue of giving the negotiating gov a decent mandate for the negotiations. if its looking over its shoulder at domestic pressure it weakens it position. that can backfire thou.

its a horrible moment in British politics ... because in a sense we are being blackmailed.

the corbynites are not interested in winning (seriously) their plan is disruption of the political landscape which makes them bloody irresponsible IMO
Interesting take.
To me it is the very height of what politics should be. Frankly, I am a little jealous at the party politics going on. Unlike ours, your politicians are up for a fight.

Here's a a serving (if not elected) PM who basically invites the opposition to be judged for their opposition.

Fully agree on the the Corbynite wing of labour is behaving irresponsibly. They are delusional to think their 60s and 70s quasi-revolutionary ideals will still fly.

The Corbynites within Labour deserve an electoral thrashing just for being old fashioned Marxists. The remainder of Labour deserves an electoral thrashing because they could not rid themselves of the likes of Corbyn, Livingstone or Diane Abbott.
Ought such behaviour not be invited to be judged at the ballot box, preferably before it does irreparable harm to UK-EU relations? This process seems to do just that. Either tomorrow or at the ballot box in June, someone will be held to account. To me that is politics how it ought to be done.

dianne abbot is a really good mp.


people are going to rally behind the PM to Mthe UK great again. cos if they don't its a cluster fuck in trying to get a deal in europe.

every negotiating position May could bring up can get questoned untill she gets rubber stamped by the electorate, giving her a carte blanche not to telegraph her positions.

i can understand why she did it.

the only problem is it took so long to get here.

its lose lose because basically its an admission of the political chaos brewing uder the surface...

frankly?


we are coming apart at the seams.
4  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 18, 2017, 10:11:01 AM
do you think the USA has been played by china and NK?

is it just a ploy to undermine trumps anti china currency manipulation policies?

ramp up NK crisis then handle it for you in return for a deal?
5  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: Third wave feminism, SJW and other mental conditions. on: April 18, 2017, 04:54:44 AM
is the desire to offend libtards actually a political position that has credence in of itself.

strikes me as vacuous as there is no positive position or policy agenda that libertarian outrage seems to spousing.

numerous times the advocates of this offensive posture will actually distance THEMSELVES from the political entities they support stating that support is some sort of protest against something..which is poorly defined most times but certainly is never FOR anything.

I'm not on the trump train etc.

what the fuck is the point of you then?

Are you in here with the rest of the loonies where you belong?
6  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 18, 2017, 04:00:01 AM
how much truth does the board think there is to the MOAB shelf life stories?

use it or lose it?
7  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: UK Politics thread on: April 18, 2017, 03:58:45 AM
labour are a mess, makes sense politically. also there is a genuine issue of giving the negotiating gov a decent mandate for the negotiations. if its looking over its shoulder at domestic pressure it weakens it position. that can backfire thou.

its a horrible moment in British politics ... because in a sense we are being blackmailed.

the corbynites are not interested in winning (seriously) their plan is disruption of the political landscape which makes them bloody irresponsible IMO
8  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 14, 2017, 01:39:25 PM
what does trigger presidential oversight currently?
9  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 13, 2017, 04:08:54 AM
fuckin' aida

10  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: Over/Under on Impeachment on: April 13, 2017, 04:07:58 AM
Imperial Presidency only works when the Emperor pays the wages of the army directly out of his own pocket (a la Roman Empire).  Otherwise they aren't 'his' armed forces. 

could be argued he can steer federal funds into the generals agenda thou..

but yeah the analogy only stretches so far.

we have to contend with the idea of something new that has its own dynamics.

same is true of the new authoritarian democracies we see being established.  this is a new mode of tyranny that is very difficult to pin down and counter due to its constantly shifting identity and use of new media.

at some point we have to come up with new definitions.
11  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 12, 2017, 02:24:01 PM
he has no coherent foreign policy at all...not even a fantasy one.

he turns everything into "its all about me"

the way he came out and got all emotional and said he could be flexible... everything has to be about him.

the guy is a joke.

well I hope masters and mattis have an idea what they are doing.

You may be right. I may be crazy. Time will tell. If you want a scholarly gloss on Trump's policies and strategies, The Journal of American Greatness, former stomping ground of Michael 'Decius" Anton, is the place to go. Here is their take on his Syria (and possibly Grand) Strategy.


Cardinal Richelieuís raison dí…tat,

really?

good luck with that
12  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: Over/Under on Impeachment on: April 12, 2017, 02:19:26 PM
their lack of desire to open up to independent enquiry and general attempts to derail the investigations has guilty written all over it..

speculation

yes

wtf are they trying to cover up.
13  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: Over/Under on Impeachment on: April 12, 2017, 06:44:21 AM
he is a malleable asset who got moved around the board...the guy is total loon..

even if he did think he had a contract out on him

who walked him into the trump campaign.?..my bet is manaford,

wouldn't be surprised that its true trump hardly knew who he was.

they were staffing up in a hurry...lets just slip a few characters in there    who needs vetting with flynn on your and turkeys and russias payroll.

his front company office is the the building next to trump tower...you can't make this stuff up, the side entrance went to a office in camp street new orleans.
14  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: Over/Under on Impeachment on: April 12, 2017, 04:41:03 AM

well its hardly breaking news.



15  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 12, 2017, 04:39:27 AM
Well, we dropped over 26,000 bombs last year...
Wonder what the count from 1991 to present day is, just to place alongside WW2 and Vietnam for comparative purposes.  

Us dropped 1,463,423 tons and the Brits chipped in for 1,307,117 tons more in Europe. Didn't drop much on Japan, only about 150,000 tons.

Vietnam, we upped our game due to better hardware and a longer war and did about 7,000,000 tons.

Got a weight on that 26,000 number? They can't all be 1,000 pounders. Even if, we got a long, long, long way to go.

26 000 seems a lot to me, 70 or so a day?  whats the source?
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