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1  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: UK Politics thread on: June 09, 2017, 09:58:17 AM
WTF, Lord Buckethead only got 249 votes

You Brits are seriously screwed up
2  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: Trump bashing thread on: May 17, 2017, 10:22:02 AM
Plus, if Trump did in fact commit obstruction of justice Comey is legally bound to report it or he can face charges.

Methinks obstruction would be to order him to drop the investigation

How he worded it (assuming it is true) is something else
3  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: Retail Apocalypse on: May 05, 2017, 08:51:48 AM
Remember Amazon?  Remember how you paid no state sales tax? Remember that was the big selling point/cost savings?

Well, what did Amazon do once they became big enough?

Lobby for all online retailers to pay state sales tax...they used this as a barrier to entry to future competitors.

The owner of a Pharma company I used to work for did the exact same thing.

He started out with his own pharmacy in a small town in S.Carolina, and would batch and sell quantities of Albuterol direct to his customers. Long story short he bought a defunct pharma packaging company and his business really took off.

In order to ensure his continued success he lobbied congress to enact regulations that required FDA oversight of the Albuterol manufacturing and sale, in effect  preventing the small town entrepreneur from doing what he did when he was a small town entrepreneur.
4  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: Trump bashing thread on: April 26, 2017, 09:13:17 AM
If we leave we lose our chance at wasting $4,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 on regime change and nation building
5  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 14, 2017, 12:30:21 PM
Sorry, we can't leave until the entire country is overrun with Walmarts and Red Lobsters.
6  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 14, 2017, 09:57:48 AM
Well the Ho Chi Minh Trail was primarily in Laos which was 'off limits' for a long time.

The Afghi/Paci boarder is not quite the same, IMO.

There is a lot of similarities between the two. While we operate in Afghanistan (Vietnam) the Taliban/ISIS insurgents (NVA/Viet Cong) are able to operate across the border in Pakistan (Laos) with relative impunity.

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The US has been there since 2001/02.  We should know every nook and cranny by now.
That's my point:  if we don't, why not?

Again, why assume we don't?
Is there something about dropping a mega-ton bomb on insurgent strongholds that lead you to believe that is the case? Should we send in ground troops instead?
7  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 14, 2017, 09:16:39 AM
Yeah but here's my issue.  We've been involved with this area for over a decade and what, we just figured this out?

Why do you think this is just being figured out? As I mentioned, the area was well known as an insurgent hideout since the Mujaheddin were fighting the Russians.

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Everything that has to get there has to be carried.  And, it would seem to me, there's probably a limited number of passages that can be used to carry stuff.

Depends on what that "stuff" is.

Consider that the triple canopy jungle of SE Asia can be as difficult as the mountains of Afghanistan in terms of moving supplies, yet the Vietnamese managed to get entire battalions of men, tanks, heavy artillery, supplies and even a 60-ft yacht down the Ho Chi Mihn trail.

I would bet ISIS doesn't want, or need, that level of commitment for their operations, so what is brought in is far less burdensome.
8  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 13, 2017, 05:13:37 PM
ISIS had to do very little, if any, digging. Achin province is right on the border with Pakistan, and almost next door to Tora Bora - OBL's supposed hideout post 9/11.

The area is a warren of naturally formed limestone cave networks. The Mujaheddin, and later the Taliban, used it extensively during the guerilla struggle.
9  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 11, 2017, 02:46:18 PM
But when I hear people say "Oh, we are just sending a signal" then I have to ask, have you tried a Hallmark card? Or WhatsApp which is free, yet those cruise missiles are about a million a piece!

Who cares what they cost?

Mexico is going to pay for it
10  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 10, 2017, 01:50:44 PM
IIRC in GW1 Brit Tornados were tasked with this mission using the then special munition (forget what it was).
Needless to say the missions worked but at a high cost of gallant crews, IIRC.

JP233
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JP233
11  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 10, 2017, 04:32:00 AM
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Why do I get the feeling we've just been played?

Can you clarify?

To quote the third stage guild navigator in Dune:
"I see plans within plans"

Suppose for a moment the decision to use WMDs didn't come from Assad, or a rouge Syrian general, but rather from the Russians. The rational being to goad us into an emotional response, which in turn allows the Russians to declare their own red lines and thereby solidify their role and position in the region, while curtailing that of the US.
12  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 09, 2017, 01:43:41 PM
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Russia and Iran have warned the US they will “respond with force” if their own “red lines” are crossed in Syria.

Following Friday’s cruise missile strike on a Syrian airbase, in retaliation for the chemical attack on Khan Sheikhoun earlier in the week, the alliance supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad made a joint statement threatening action in response to “any breach of red lines from whoever it is”.

“What America waged in an aggression on Syria is a crossing of red lines. From now on we will respond with force to any aggressor or any breach of red lines from whoever it is and America knows our ability to respond well,” the group’s joint command centre said.

Raise your hand if you want WW3...

Why do I get the feeling we've just been played?
13  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 07, 2017, 03:06:07 PM
Perhaps he was testing the waters in terms of how friendly to Russia the administration actually is. Now he knows.

I don't get it.
Let's see how loyal my Russian allies are by embarrassing them on the world stage?
14  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: News from the front, Iraq, the Middle East, and elsewhere. on: April 07, 2017, 11:48:30 AM
Simply put, Assad wants to strike fear in the hearts of his opponents, and what better way than to use chemical weapons.

How about winning the ground war to such an extent that Washington concedes the reality of Assad in charge for the foreseeable future, in other words what is happening now?

That is why this chem attack makes no sense. All risk, no gain.




15  Politics & World Affairs / Politics & World Affairs / Re: Trump bashing thread on: March 31, 2017, 11:21:20 AM
And Trump tweets Flynn should get immunity.

Kinda interesting take from POTUS.

Especially when he previously said anyone who takes it has something to hide
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