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 on: Today at 05:15:00 PM 
Started by Dirtweasle - Last post by stoat
Turkey is now bombing Kurds in both Syria and Iraq. The US and Russia were given one hour of advance notice. There's been a lot of chatter from the Turks about launching another offensive in Syria, this time against the Kurds. I doubt they'd get far given how badly they were paddled by ISIS around al-Bab, but it seems a lot more credible than I would have thought two days ago. YPG is now asking for the US to enact a no-fly zone to deter not Syrian but NATO-member Turkey's air strikes. How crazy is that?

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 on: Today at 09:42:03 AM 
Started by Elmar Bijlsma - Last post by Elmar Bijlsma
There is this Kingsday (how weird it still is to not say Queensday) tradition in The Netherlands to hold a 'vrijmarkt' which basically means everyone can claim a spot on the sidewalk and sell their shit there. To claim this spot in advance, people mark out the spot and write 'bezet' (occupied) on it in tape or chalk.

But now some assholes with nothing better to do have decided to get butthurt about this because Kingsday is about a week before we remember our fallen (4th of May) and celebrate our liberation (5th of May) and the term bezet/occupied is the same as what we use for the German occupation.
That is a grievance so far fetched that it took people 71 years to think of it!

These cunts apparently now go around with orange tape to 'correct' the claims by taping over it with the words "free for..."

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 on: Today at 05:47:59 AM 
Started by smope - Last post by Hakko
Patriots Day is wicked awesome, bro. Actually plays the story pretty straight. Plus lots of wicked good Bahstan accents.

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 on: Today at 04:38:20 AM 
Started by bboyle - Last post by dfgardner
Then you don't understand how funding actually works.

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 on: Yesterday at 10:49:09 PM 
Started by Babra - Last post by Elmar Bijlsma
Scotland is great.
Spend two weeks on a scooter/moped going around the place. The Borders area is real pretty but the big draw is the highlands. Be sure to take time to wander the shores of a Loch and definitely get out of bed for a very early morning walk up Ben Nevis if the schedule allows. The early morning mist and low clouds are spectacular.
Stirling is pretty good too.

Also, Loch Ness caused me to be disappointed in myself. Even as a severe sceptic looking at it is different from looking at any other body of water.

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 on: Yesterday at 06:49:32 PM 
Started by bboyle - Last post by Seminole
Bombs are not bought for other purposes; however Congress can say 'spend no money doing X Y or Z.'

I think that interpretation turns the express intent of the law on its head. It is the perogative of the Congress to declare what wars we will have, not to declare what wars we won't have and then leave the president to whip up any not thusly forbidden.

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 on: Yesterday at 01:14:09 PM 
Started by bboyle - Last post by dfgardner
Bombs are not bought for other purposes; however Congress can say 'spend no money doing X Y or Z.'

Happens all the time; the DoD name for funds like that is 'fenced funds.' 

The larger issue is POTUS has Commander in Chief powers.  However, Congress can impeach and remove from office for about any issue they want:  High Crimes and Misdemeanors has never, IIRC, been defined.

Impeachment and removal is a political act/ not a legal one.

Flip he coin:  POTUS could be removed for failure to act as well.

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 on: Yesterday at 10:56:31 AM 
Started by bboyle - Last post by Seminole
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Not true at all; Congress has the power of the purse...which can lead to impeachment and removal from office for doing 'unfunded' stuff

I meant McCain can't order bombers into Syria, no matter how badly he wants it.

I'm trying to remember the last time Congress told the president he couldn't bomb somewhere because they bought those bombs for some other purpose.

Each election the choice seems to always be Kang or Kodos. American people voted for Bush when he said no more nation building. Then they voted for Obama and even the Nobel fell hook, line, and sinker for that stinker. Then we vote in the guy who says no more stupid wars, why are we borrowing with no end in site to protect first world nations, and even said the president would be making a mistake to bomb Syria without congressional approval.

American voter keeps thinking they have options, but the only option is always more of the same.

I think Butler was right, only real way to stop this shit is to conscript capital. The rich would put an end to this if it cost them money instead of made them money.

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 on: Yesterday at 09:57:43 AM 
Started by bboyle - Last post by dfgardner
Imperial Presidency only works when the Emperor pays the wages of the army directly out of his own pocket (a la Roman Empire).  Otherwise they aren't 'his' armed forces. 

I'm trying to fathom a scenario where the President tells the Chairman of the JCS to bomb country X and is told, "No, you don't pay my salary."


In order to refuse an officer has to prove (and note the burden is upon the person rejecting the order) that the order was unlawful.  Or, the officer has to resign...that's it, no other options.
You don't want the military saying 'nah, we're not doing that'.....that slope won't end where you think it will.

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Members of Congress can't do that.  No one else can do that.  Makes them effectively 'his' in my book.

Not true at all; Congress has the power of the purse...which can lead to impeachment and removal from office for doing 'unfunded' stuff.

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When Clinton openly and wantonly violated the stipulations of the War Powers resolution (namely, not ending combat when he failed to get Congressional authorization within 30 days of initiating hostilities (and then he even carried on beyond the additional 30 days the President is given to extricate forces - in this case, quit launching bombers)) it left me wondering if a President would ever bother again in my lifetime.  Bush II did, but our Nobel Prize winner decided the 2001 AUMF was actually open season on nation on earth he wanted to bomb, and he acted accordingly.

See above for the answer.

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How do we rein this in?

Right now YOU directly elect your representatives (both in the House and Senate).  The fault, Dear Seminole, lies not in our stars, but in ourselves.

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 on: Yesterday at 09:25:43 AM 
Started by bboyle - Last post by Soddball
If we take the Roman Empire as an analogy, you can't.  The senate becomes weaker and less effective and the Emperor and his dynasty rules until the Huns and Goths set fire to everything.

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