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 on: Today at 12:53:06 AM 
Started by Soddball - Last post by Soddball
The materials are not illegal.  The situation is complicated and I regret the difficulty you have understanding it.  Let me try again:

EU legislation overrides the right of member states to make new legislation in this field.

Prior member state legislation can override EU legislation.

The materials can - if you look at the links I showed - be sold, legally, anywhere in Europe, because they meet all the EU standards for production.

The materials are not 'sub par'.  They have met all the legal requirements for sale.  That means they are by definition 'par'. 



This situation has been partly created by the 'feature creep' nature of the EU, where it takes over some powers but not all.  No doubt democracy haters like you will argue that means the EU should have more powers, as if it makes such fine use of the ones it has.

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 on: Yesterday at 02:02:49 PM 
Started by Soddball - Last post by mididoctors
your full of shit in no way does the existence of building regs overturn sub par materials used at Grenfell tower

if anything is to be learnt here it is that fire regs across Europe needed to be at a higher standard and MORE unified


the materials used are illegal in Germany and there use here was an economic one. that had NOTHING TO DO WITH EU REGS


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 on: Yesterday at 01:52:45 PM 
Started by Soddball - Last post by Elmar Bijlsma
I finally bought Dead State, a zombie survival turn based RTS with base and people management.
So far, so good. Certainly not lacking for depth.

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 on: Yesterday at 01:48:31 PM 
Started by Soddball - Last post by Soddball
Since you are so pitifully ignorant of the reality, Boris, allow me to enlighten you.

Construction Products are what is known as an 'occupied field' in EU legislation. 

What that means is that if the EU has passed a law in that area, then existing laws within countries can stand so long as they do not conflict with EU law, but that EU law becomes supreme in that area.  And after that first law is passed, no member state may pass any more laws in that area, since the EU now 'occupies' that field of legislation.

Below is a link to the Construction Products Regulation 305/2011:

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32011R0305&from=EN

The cladding product in question has been declared safe for sale within the EU, despite the DCLG and the Chancellor claiming otherwise.

The product is not banned.  It is not 'sub par'.  It is legally for sale anywhere in the EU, because it has been declared safe by British and EU regulations.

And why are we cladding our buildings?  Because the Green Monster - the far-left human-hating maniacs  that have captured so much of the regulatory process in the EU - is less interested in the safety of people, and more interested in CO2 emissions.

When the buildings were designed in the 60s and 70s, they were built to be fireproof.  Each flat was a concrete block that was essentially impermeable to fire.  Cladding is a modern reaction to try to improve insulation and reduce CO2 output. 

Now you might not like those facts, Boris, but facts they remain.  And until you and millions of other stop supporting the poisonous ideology that kills people to 'save the planet', people will continue to die.  Blood on your hands, not Teresa May's.

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 on: Yesterday at 01:09:21 PM 
Started by Soddball - Last post by mididoctors
One country in the world doesn't realize polystyrene is flammable and releases cyanide gas when burned and it's not Liberia. Let's wrap our homes in it.  

The problem comes down to the change in emphasis that the EU's green movement has brought to building construction.  It used to be about fire safety, and now it's about insulating as much as possible to save the planet.

Not much use if the whole thing goes up in a puff of CO2 and trace elements which were once people.

one problem is dishonest twats spreading garbage



that is fucking bullshit. fire safety regs have improved under eu regs and the cladding here was sub par regulation wise hence back tracking on claims by fuck face that it was up to standard.

not only that...a tory lead steering group was up for dismantling regulations further as a "benefit" of Brexit

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 on: Yesterday at 12:47:14 PM 
Started by Soddball - Last post by rleete
Build fire trap.  Fill with young yobs.  Ignite.

Think of the emissions you save long term.

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 on: Yesterday at 10:55:15 AM 
Started by Soddball - Last post by Soddball
One country in the world doesn't realize polystyrene is flammable and releases cyanide gas when burned and it's not Liberia. Let's wrap our homes in it. 

The problem comes down to the change in emphasis that the EU's green movement has brought to building construction.  It used to be about fire safety, and now it's about insulating as much as possible to save the planet.

Not much use if the whole thing goes up in a puff of CO2 and trace elements which were once people.

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 on: Yesterday at 08:58:45 AM 
Started by Soddball - Last post by Rother
One country in the world doesn't realize polystyrene is flammable and releases cyanide gas when burned and it's not Liberia. Let's wrap our homes in it. 

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 on: Yesterday at 06:56:32 AM 
Started by Soddball - Last post by Soddball
lakanal tower block torched in what is pretty much the same way and yes there is no official verdict yet but anyone can see that its the bloody cladding.

i think there is no need to rush as in everybody moves TODAY. but these blocks need rehousing. fuck all was done after Lakanal despite official findings that the cladding spread the fire

that was 2009!

now they are checking the buildings 8 years later and discovering that dozens of them have the same issue.

damn right they need evacuating



You said yourself there's no formal evidence.  Acting before the evidence makes us emotional fuckwits (or Labour Party voters) instead of rational human beings.

They do NOT need evacuating.

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 on: Yesterday at 04:49:17 AM 
Started by Soddball - Last post by mididoctors
lakanal tower block torched in what is pretty much the same way and yes there is no official verdict yet but anyone can see that its the bloody cladding.

i think there is no need to rush as in everybody moves TODAY. but these blocks need rehousing. fuck all was done after Lakanal despite official findings that the cladding spread the fire

that was 2009!

now they are checking the buildings 8 years later and discovering that dozens of them have the same issue.

damn right they need evacuating


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